Black History Month Roundtable: Celebrating Culture and Progress

During Black History Month, we honor the remarkable achievements and contributions of Black individuals who have helped shape our world in countless ways🌎 

At LineLeader, we're joining the celebration with a special podcast episode featuring a Black History Month Roundtable.  

In the episode, different members of our team share their thoughts on the significance of Black History Month, how they celebrate, diversity in education and the workplace, and more🙏 
 
We invite you to join us in this celebration by listening to the Roundtable podcast episode.

 We hope it inspires you to continue learning and growing in your understanding of diversity and inclusion.  

Let's honor the contributions of Black individuals not just this month, but every day😊 

Transcript

kemberly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Black History Month conversations around Black History Month. 

Thank you for joining me and my line leader co workers here. so let's just dive right into it. This happens to be one of my favorite most a month that is near and dear to me, as I'm sure it is to you because you volunteered to be a part of this discussion, so today well, we'll talk about a couple of different topics mainly around education, but all around black history Monk. So Just you know, kind of give my opinion, but I don't want to dominate the conversation. I'll kind of go around the room and see your in. put on these questions and just feel free to kind of talk about your thoughts, your ideas, even if we go off script a little bit. Always interested in everybody's story. 

So the first one I want to know is what is black History Must mean to you? What does it represent to you? And I think I'll just


kemberly:
We'll start out with you. Colin.

colin_myers:
Yeah, for me, I think it's It's one of those things where I'm It's a big month because it's super important and I think the biggest thing to me with Black History Month means is like educating others on the history of like black people with her. That's through like movies or music or anything. but for me Like the biggest thing I like to take out of it is like education and like how to educate its Months. Were we ever? we can educate others on our history?


kemberly:
And you know, sometimes just in general conversation people can learn things, so it may not be you know, really specifically going out to educate. but just in just your daily conversation S. you don't know how much people are listening or that they catch up on to, So maybe not direct education. But you probably said something to educate or enlighten someone, and

colin_myers:
Yeah.

kemberly:
Now, I'll skip to Veronica, Veronica. What does it mean to you black history, Mom?

veronica_williams_robinson:
Black History Month means a lot to me, especially since I just had a baby boy, so it's definitely is a little bit more intense now than what it was a year before. for me, Just like how Colin said it is about education, and it's also just about really grasping, like the heaviness in the history of black Americans, and just realizing for me that our people were like held hostage for three hundred years on the land That we live on day to day and that we had to fight for us just to have our freedom, and we continue fighting for us just to have the equal piece of the pie. And it's like the month where we can say out loud, and I feel like without judgment that those things did happen and they directly affect our lives to day versus, I feel like every other month, it's kind of like we're just tracking along and living life, and we're not truly acknowledged In the hardships that we had to overcome, and still the things that we face today. so it's a lot.

kemberly:
I love that and just off script for a second. Do you believe it's very important for us to say to people? Don't forget we can't forget.

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah, I mean, when people you know definitely say like it was still long ago and my husband Jordan's dat just passed away. He was born in nineteen, twenty four, and he had to go like he couldn't go to college. A normal college. He had to go to H, B, C U. because of course he couldn't attend just a normal college, normal predominantly white college institution.

kemberly:
Absolutely. Sometimes people do have that thought or that feeling of 'Hey, that's been so long ago. You should just kind of get over it'. 

You make very good points. Veronica about keeping it relevant, you know, Asia last, but not at least on that question. What does black history mean to you?

asyah:
Um, Yes, So like everyone said, of course, I feel like Black History Month is about education, and I do think it is about acknowledging you know like what happened in the past, but also bringing new information to light. Because if we think about like when we were back in school, I feel like personally, when I was in school, they would always like teach when they taught black history. It was about like slavery and things like that, but it's like black history is so much deeper than that. Like People have roots in a lot of inventions and a lot of everyday things that you know we do and what we use and stuff. And you mentioned like saying, Don't forget or like you know. Remember this and I think that is important to say just because people do try to make it seem like it was something like issues going on with black people happened so long ago, but it's actually more current than we think. Kind of Like to put a reference on it Rot Bridges. She was the first black girl to integrate a white school and she's She's a very. I'm pretty sure we on talk about this, but she's an important figure to me because it kind of puts into respect of how recent this is because she is well and still alive. She's in her sixties and you know she was just like a five year old little girl going into school and she had grown people. like protesting against her getting upset with her. She had to walk in with like guards because there were people And things like that, so



kemberly:
wow.

asyah:
It's so recent. This is how people are still dealing with this, and like, even with with Ruby Bridges...she's only sixty four, so those people that were spitting on her protesting against her. they're still alive. A lot of them could still be alive.

kemberly:
Yeah,

asyah:
So Black history month to me is like acknowledging the bad stuff that happened, but also acknowledging the good stuff and the strides that we've made In our society, And then also like what's going on now because we're still going through an arrow where we're still saying the first black woman to do this, the first black man to do this And it's twenty twenty three


kemberly:
I totally agree with all of that. I mean you make some great points and it just makes my heart leap with joy when I see a younger generation kind of embracing the history, but understanding that the ball is still rolling, So Asia, you did jump ahead. It's almost like you knew my agenda, because the next thing that I really wanted to hear from you guys who is a looming figure for you, it's hard. Choose one. Actually, when you said Ruby Bridges, I'm thinking, Oh God, I should have chosen her, But who do you see as being on the forefront of that battle for representing the struggle and the victories and the victories yet to come when it comes to black history? So you talked about Ruby Bridges. Veronica Is someone come to mind for you?

veronica_williams_robinson:
Um, yeah, I have probably two. One is going to be James Baldwin to represent the past, and just James Alden Baldwin, Because at that point it was you need to wait

kemberly:
wait

veronica_williams_robinson:
for

kemberly:
for

veronica_williams_robinson:
progress to happen and James Baldon

kemberly:
all

veronica_williams_robinson:
was like, Change

kemberly:
Ye

veronica_williams_robinson:
needs

kemberly:
need

veronica_williams_robinson:
to

kemberly:
to

veronica_williams_robinson:
happen

kemberly:
happen.

veronica_williams_robinson:
today. If any

kemberly:
Any

veronica_williams_robinson:
change

kemberly:
change?

veronica_williams_robinson:
is going to happen needs to happen today,

kemberly:
How?

veronica_williams_robinson:
And he used yeahtodo,

kemberly:
one of my favorites? Yes,

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah to sit and just let the status quo quote be as it was and not take action.

kemberly:
Yeah,

veronica_williams_robinson:
And I think he's kind of known, but people don't know him as much because you have likemalcmexs autobiography of X, and like his autobiography is amazing to, because he also was a gay mail. So

kemberly:
yes,

veronica_williams_robinson:
James Baldwin Al that he Brought not only gay

kemberly:
He.

veronica_williams_robinson:
rights and Mracism and to the floor front, he also fought for rights that he wasn't inincluded on, like he fought for all rights for all people, even though he was not part of those demograthics.

kemberly:
Oh, wow.

veronica_williams_robinson:
Then my new one. I guess you guys would probably know her name Stacy Abram's, She is definitely one. Because like

kemberly:
Good. a yeah.

veronica_williams_robinson:
that, I was saying it's that those are the things that we still fight For today, just looking at civil rights acts that are looking to be overturn, that have been in place since the sixties, and just

kemberly:
Yes,

veronica_williams_robinson:
making it harder for black people to vote,

kemberly:
No,

veronica_williams_robinson:
any person of color, anyone that is oppressed,

kemberly:
Yeah,

veronica_williams_robinson:
and putting those laws that a lot of them have been deem unconstitutional, moving those forward and stay dedicated years, you know, and still is doing what she needs to do

kemberly:
De.

veronica_williams_robinson:
or what we should do to making sure, Or that everyone vote is is counted

kemberly:
I love

veronica_williams_robinson:
than

kemberly:
it.

veronica_williams_robinson:
that.

kemberly:
Love both of those some very powerful figures very much so I could spend an entire book session on James Baldwin, But we

veronica_williams_robinson:
Oh

kemberly:
want to get Collins person

veronica_williams_robinson:
yeah,

kemberly:
in here and kind of seeing what his thoughts are on some one that you see is a prolific figure for black history. Not

colin_myers:
Yeah,

kemberly:
just

colin_myers:
after,

kemberly:
this month, just period. Yes,

colin_myers:
Yeah, for me, I think my perspective is probably a little bit different. So for me, like the biggest one, I would say it was Jackie Robinson and I think that's like I played sports growing up and I played hockey, so it's kind of similar Jackie Robinson in a way where it was like. I think for me it's what he did show that like you don't have to look like everyone else to like do something. and like he did something where it felt like people like him shouldn't be there. and For me like even just growing up playing hockey, that kind of like resignated with me. And that's why I picked him and I think like, What's what was also cool about what he did was like. Yeah, he like him starting to play baseball and that Ll be was like like only about sports, but it ended up turning into like, Have impact on things like outside of the sport itself, So I think it was really cool. How like him, just Doing what you loved and playing a sport impacted like society as a whole.

kemberly:
You're absolutely right. Obviously,

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
a lot of

veronica_williams_robinson:
yeah,

kemberly:
this generation probably wasn't even aware of Jackie Robinson until you know Chadwick did the movie Forty two. It's a powerful movie where he portrayed Jackie Robinson, but you're right. It not only impacted M, l. B, it impacted the politics around it. So you know

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yes,

kemberly:
I struggled for finding one one person because there's a movement right And that includes people that are in the forefront. like Dr. King,

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
Of course, the one that everybody knows the maltcomexis. They're out front.

veronica_williams_robinson:
Ah,

kemberly:
but so many people forget those that were on the front line of the struggle. Those that got

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
the water hoses are got sicked on by the dogs or those that walked when there was a waco in some of, or you know for the bus, So Everybody knows Rose parks. But what about all the other people that said No, We're going to stand up and we're not going to take the bus until we can sit up front, So I think my heroes obviously are the known

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
ones, but are those unsown heroes that nobody will ever know their name will ever know their name. So I think about those people and the gratitude that I have for them, but I do want to touch Quickly on something you said about Just nobody knows the inventions. I. I was a museum guy. I think I may have heard me say this before, but I worked

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
at the Harriet Tubman museum. She's one of my sheep bros, but at the Harriottub museum and part of that museum, The Black History Museum, and Making Georgia, just outed out of Atlanta. But there was an whole area where there was black invention, And I'm you know, Sad to say, I didn't even know half the things that we should have credit for every body grew up at least in my generation with George Washing Carver, you know that was,

veronica_williams_robinson:
I,

kemberly:
but I had no idea there was. the black man created the stop like

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah.

kemberly:
the ice cream scoop. The you know that that kind of thing, the pencil sharpen it. Well back in my day, you went up on sharing your pistols, But huge things like that, a whole Room full of inventions that nobody would ever know to be attributed to the black culture, so I wish I could take that one exhibit and just put it in every elementary coal. Speaking of which, let's get into education, which you know, Mark game, said education is the key. You know. He was non violent, but his whole premise was to be educated was To give us equal playing field or it should, And the whole idea. One of the questions that we have

veronica_williams_robinson:
Oh

kemberly:
dark with a statistic that was given to me one that I didn't know, and that was if if one, if during elementary school a black child had at least one black teacher, they are thirteen per cent more likely to go to college. And if they had at least Two black teachers,

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
they, that almost triples

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
the chance for them to go to college blew my mind like Wow. So my story with that and way, your thoughts about that, and why that might be the case? But I can tell you my story, because from a generation and you know, trying to look good, but I'm from a generation where there was when you lived in the black neighborhood, you went to a black school and when I say a black school like me, it was Black principle and all black teachers. So that

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
was all I knew growing up, you know from first through Like started gray, Like Okay. That was normal

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
for me, but I remember so vividly to this day the inspiration that I got from seeing someone who looks like me standing in front of me teaching me inspiring me.

veronica_williams_robinson:
He,

kemberly:
I gave her credit before she passed a year or two ago. My first great teacher. She led me to believe that I could be anything in this world. I wanted to be. she said that I, I sound like the hell. I was smart. I was

veronica_williams_robinson:
M

kemberly:
pretty. I was important. you know,

asyah:
M.

kemberly:
So she said all those things to me, and honestly, to this day most of these things I still very much embraced and went on obviously to college and those kind of things. But what do you think about those statistics? And why do you think it mad Or having a black teacher Now? I'll start with you, Colin.

colin_myers:
Yeah, that's that's interesting because I think that's something that's really important, but I honestly, I don't think I ever had a black teacher till I was in high school like I didn't in that middle school elementary school. I don't remember. I feel like I would. I would remember if I did and I don't remember any til high school. But

veronica_williams_robinson:
Sam,

colin_myers:
like the good thing for me, though like is like when I did it felt like like it was at like a really good time for me because I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do and I was like a junior in high school And I played sports my whole life. So kind of like what I felt like. The only thing I could do was play sports like that was kind of like what to find me and what everyone knew me for. And so I wasn't like. I wasn't super like good at school or anything, And she kind of like helped me. Um, like, realized like how smart I actually was and that like that wasn't the only thing that mattered And so I think that like was. That's what. Like sticks out the most to me about her. Her and it's kind of funny because

kemberly:
M.

colin_myers:
Still talk like. So she has my

kemberly:
Uh,

colin_myers:
Instagram.

kemberly:
uh,

colin_myers:
We still talk. So

kemberly:
Oh, Really.

colin_myers:
it's

kemberly:
what's her name?

colin_myers:
Miss Murray.

kemberly:
Miss Mary? Okay, so Miss Mary had an impact on your life, Asia. What do you think those statistics mean and the why behind all of it?

asyah:
Yeah, So I think those statistics are actually very mind blowing because I don't really think I've really had a black teacher either. Well, I did have a black teacher of my first grade year, but she was like she was. She wasn't the best example of what a black teacher could be like in the school. I think

kemberly:
M.

asyah:
yeah, but

kemberly:
hm,

asyah:
you know it was still. It's still like a mind blowing statistic Because even through my through my lifetime, that's the only black teacher that I've ever had. Um, And so

kemberly:
Yeah,

asyah:
that's still good to see. I will say that it's still like shocks me sometimes when I do see like, for example, M, I just finished my last semester of college and I had this one class and there was always a class right before my class, and sometimes I would walk into that class early by accident, And you know the professor was a black woman. She looked Young, probably like in her twenties, probably early thirties, and that was always my points, because I'm like. I've never even had a black professor Because I went to a p. w. I. M. and so that was pretty cool and I know one time I went into class the class room early, all of her students had left, but she was still there and I just was curious because like every time I saw, I was like, Oh, my gosh, like a black professor and I asked her I was like. So what do you teach And she's like, I think she taught. I think she taught education. She taught for School of education at U. And so she's teaching the future teachers. Basically, Um, and it

kemberly:
M.

asyah:
was really cool to talk to her, especially because she was a young black woman, but I do think that definitely can impact people in an amazing way for sure, because I mean,

kemberly:
Yes,

asyah:
like, like I said,

kemberly:
definitely,

asyah:
I had really a black teacher even growing up in high school or middle school or anything like that.

kemberly:
Well, I love

veronica_williams_robinson:
An

kemberly:
that

veronica_williams_robinson:
you.

kemberly:
it even peaks your curiosity. I mean the fact that here's a young black woman in the educational fill, and even that kind of got you excited enough. Say, I want to dig a little deeper on this, So that's interesting and Veronica. We had already kind of mentioned this that you didn't have any black teachers growing up as well, Which is sad to me to hear you guys say this, but it's also very interesting, but I want to hear your story of Veronica in terms The statistics. Why do you think that it makes an impact of positivity?

veronica_williams_robinson:
Okay,

kemberly:
And and me, just your thoughts around

veronica_williams_robinson:
Ah,

kemberly:
it.

veronica_williams_robinson:
for sure, but Asia has said something and I kind of like want her to say what it is, because I think in the plat community we use acronyms like H, B, C, U, P, W. I, and I don't think a lot of people know what that means. So

kemberly:
Good.

veronica_williams_robinson:
Asia,

kemberly:
call

veronica_williams_robinson:
can you?

kemberly:
out.

veronica_williams_robinson:
I is,

asyah:
Yeah, so

kemberly:
Yeah,

veronica_williams_robinson:
You didn't tell

kemberly:
H. b

veronica_williams_robinson:
us.

kemberly:
C. U.

asyah:
Yeah,

kemberly:
go ahead, Asia

asyah:
yeah, so a P. w is a predominantly white institution, Um, and then an Hbcis, a historically black college or university, And those were just like the universities that were established originally for black students just because they couldn't, you know, join up, P. w, I, M. but you know the rules have changed a little bit to where anybody can go to an h B C. I don't even really think they restricted white people from going to an h B C. Back then, I think it was just like an unspoke Think of like the black people are going to go to H, b C. U. And then you know white people go to like the P. W. I, M, but yeah,

kemberly:
Exactly perfect. Thank you

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
for for doing that Because we do talk in acronums

veronica_williams_robinson:
He.

kemberly:
and we do just take it for ranted, So appreciate it for the audience. But yeah, so Veronica. Yeah, kind of share your thoughts on that and then one last question that this time is quickly. I love it. but one last question or a couple of as that I want to get to, But your thoughts on those statistics.

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah, the statistics. Definitely, it makes sense. Um, overall, because how calling didn't have someone that looked like him and that just you know, shared that not same culture because it also depends upon like where you live and all these other things, but someone that we can look to you and say all right They're doing this. I have these flue of options. You know that I possibly could do when you Only see your face on like a basketball court, or you know at an office, then it's like Okay, They're doing this. Then all right, this is cool. This is what I can do and it just makes you feel kind of safe. And so when you don't see teachers, it's just not that you don't belong, but that is that opportunity. Really for me.

kemberly:
Yeah,

veronica_williams_robinson:
Is that opportunity there for me, Because I haven't seen any one that looks like me And I think also an unspoken rule about being black is that we always help each other, And it's the fact that when you have a black teacher or you have a black leader, anything like that, it's that they know what I feel like being part of this community and it's that since that we always want to see each other excel,

kemberly:
Yeah,

veronica_williams_robinson:
like they know what I feel, and they will helt me excell, And it's not this unfairness, it's just this You

kemberly:
Knowing

veronica_williams_robinson:
get me,

kemberly:
this,

veronica_williams_robinson:
you know, and I'm going to make sure that you are, and I think black parents say that's a lot. You're further along than where I was. We want

kemberly:
Absolutely

veronica_williams_robinson:
you to do better than where I was, and I think that's what a black teacher would serve and would hold Is that example of I want you to go this extra mile. I'm here today, but go for and I think that's why it's a big deal. I didn't have any black teachers. Thankfully, in high school they offered avid. I don't know if they still offer it or not. And so I was able to be with minorities and like go to events. we went to like the opera, and like all this other stuff, And it was just super dope because

kemberly:
Yeah.

veronica_williams_robinson:
we were going out and going to the opera and plays as Minority is Mein group super dope,

kemberly:
I think you hit on so many great points tera, especially the unspoken language that can happen. It doesn't always happen, but

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
the unspoken language between the community that I've kind of walked in your shoes and I want you to go further, but you know, moving on and I appreciate you guys and put on that. so moving on really quickly because I've got just.

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
I'll frame this question together since we're on limit Time. but I could go on, but it really. there's been a study at Harvard that says, even though you've been educated and even though you're in high, you're

veronica_williams_robinson:
Right,

kemberly:
a high achiever. They did a study that amongst young blacks high achievers highly educated that says, they still feel marginalized at work. They still feel like there On the outside or not getting the same treatment. So tell me your thoughts about this. First of all, how can those nonmarginalized other races? other groups that may not know this or may not understand that they are marginalizing someone? How can they be allied? How can they prevent this from happen Or that feeling of Hey, I'm just as smart. I'm educated, but I'm only going half

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
as far or not as far, so I'll jump right in. I'll always start calling because color standing out here right

colin_myers:
M.

veronica_williams_robinson:
M.

kemberly:
again. Let me frame the question again. There was a study that says, And it was done among high achievers, highly educated blacks who are in the work place. So this is time. What? In one minute or less, Tell me, how can those in position of leadership prevent that feeling? How I still feel marginal lived

colin_myers:
Yeah, I think there's a couple of things that I could think of right away, but the first major thing I think would be like the kind of encourage open communication. So like making sure people know like, because you can't fix that issue if you don't know. it's a problem. so I feel like making everyone feel like they're heard and like that they their opinions and feelings matter. That's super important. I also think like, like, like tailoring hiring processes and stuff around making having a dove Diverse workplace. Because when you don't have a diverse workplace, when everyone looks the same naturally people are going to feel like left out or socially. Just because I feel like that's pretty like a natural feeling, so I would say like those are the two most important things to me. At least

kemberly:
Fantastic. Thank you for your input, Asia, go to you next.

asyah:
Um,

kemberly:
How can we prevent this feeling of being marginal? Ized Well, those on the outside of that culture

asyah:
I think that when work places are trying to make sure you know people aren't left out or that they're not marginalized in the workplace, I think they also have to put in the effort of educating themselves and kind of recognizing their own biases. Um, I feel like a lot of the time it's put on us to educate people, and while you know that is, you know cool, We can educate people. We can tell you what's going on how we feel, but some Tim, I feel like that shouldn't be our job. All the time is having to tell people what to say when not to say like, I feel like that's something you know. You know, you know. we've had to step on egg shells when we say certain things, So it's like sometimes I feel like when it comes to that I feel like work places just need to you know. Do their research try to, actually, you know, be sympathetic and recognize their own biases Because I think that a lot of the time sometimes it's intentional, but sometimes it's unintentional and people don't recognize That bias until they see that some felt some type of way about it. And so there's nothing wrong

kemberly:
Thro

asyah:
with. But it's like you know. Try your best to educate yourself and don't get defensive If you know a black person tells you, Hey, I don't like the way you said this to me, or you treated me like this. Don't get defensive. Just be like. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean it that way and you know then you know, correct the

kemberly:
Take some ownership.

asyah:
yeah and correct.

kemberly:
Okay,

asyah:
Your

kemberly:
I

veronica_williams_robinson:
M.

kemberly:
like that.

asyah:
been moving. Yeah,

kemberly:
Then Veronica called you V

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yes,

kemberly:
recording. Jump in there and tell me how how can we help really quickly?

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah, how we can help. Definitely, Asia is fought on about biases

kemberly:
I

veronica_williams_robinson:
and you have to learn and it's build it straight. right. You have to destroy what you currently are doing to build what is good, And it's not our responsibility whatsoever to put education on to others, because that's what we've been doing our whole life. We feel like it's necessary to serve someone else, so hopefully they'll treat us as an equal Tum. to what Colin said as well before about only being good in football. I'll use this reference and calling probably know about how black there weren't black quarterbacks because they weren't quote. unquote, smart. it was that you know black people were like fast runners and everything of that sort, And going back to Asia is that when you use the word like aggressive or mad or frustrated when you were speaking about a black woman, it's actually like a micro aggression, and learning what these Microodressions are could definitely help benefit the company as a whole, and then going back to call in just stating that diversity is good, but we also as a work place. every work place needs to have diversity inclusion and equity inclusion, meaning that we just don't have brown bodies in the chair. That we see ourselves in points of leadership and management and doing those things so our voices can be heard on

kemberly:
I

veronica_williams_robinson:
That

kemberly:
love

veronica_williams_robinson:
is

kemberly:
that

veronica_williams_robinson:
what,

kemberly:
I love all the input because we're kind of on one accord. I love the way that you guys are thinking about not just these questions, but just just our culture as a whole, and where we're out of time.

veronica_williams_robinson:
Right,

kemberly:
Actually, if you can believe it or not, and it just seems like we've just touched the surface of what it means to be black in twenty twenty three, And believe it or not,

veronica_williams_robinson:
M,

kemberly:
You hear this all the time. We've done a lot. We've progressed a lot, but we still have a long way to go. The last question and I know this is a little over, but I'm going to have to limit us to one one word from. You

asyah:
It's hard.

kemberly:
Don't want to cut you off, but it has to be that. so one resource you would recommend you talked about educating yourselves and taking ownership and the biases. But one resource you would tell some And go read this If you wanted to know more about my culture, Black people. So I thought about this, and I would say if I had to choose one that James Baldwin spoke in front of Congress about

veronica_williams_robinson:
Hm,

kemberly:
the diversity, So if I was to recommend that to anybody, look up his speech to Congress. I forgot what year it was But Ames Baldwin in Congress, so beat up Two seconds. What would you recommend What resource

veronica_williams_robinson:
X,

kemberly:
T V or

veronica_williams_robinson:
x,

kemberly:
anything?

veronica_williams_robinson:
Malcom x, Malcom,

kemberly:
Malcom Asia,

asyah:
I can't. I can't choose one word.

kemberly:
Asia, you have to. You have to Asia. One

asyah:
Did I

kemberly:
resource. it could be a T V show.

asyah:
Making

kemberly:
Martin. I don't know.

asyah:
sentence? Can I say a sentence? I'm goin to say a sentence. Okay and break the rules a little bit. I'm going to say, I'm going to say read books in general just from black authors.

kemberly:
Okay

veronica_williams_robinson:
Hm,

kemberly:
fans. that was not

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yes,

kemberly:
that okay, Colin. One resource.

colin_myers:
I'm a big museum guy, so I would say like, look at like museums. And nowadays you don't even have to go like you can. Just there's virtual tours. You can literally go to a museum at home and go

kemberly:
Oh,

colin_myers:
through everything. It's pretty cool, so I would say

kemberly:
I love

colin_myers:
that

kemberly:
it. Well, thank you. check out the

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
art museum and Makin, so they've replaced

veronica_williams_robinson:
You,

kemberly:
me as a live guy. Thank

veronica_williams_robinson:
Oh

kemberly:
thank you so much, everybody. I appreciate your input. I think this was so valuable and hopefully we'll get an opportunity to really continue the conversation and I encourage you to continue the conversation with your co workers and your

veronica_williams_robinson:
Yeah,

kemberly:
prince.

veronica_williams_robinson:
And it's just autobiography of Malcom X, but everybody knows it as the big X on the front, but that's it.

kemberly:
Thank you. All right. Have a good day, everybody by.

colin_myers:
Thank you.